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Thursday, March 08, 2007

Religion as a Cause of Conflict

My atheist friend Jeff Harmson has claimed several times, in the “Comments” section of this blog, that “90%” of all wars are caused by religion, that all terrorists are inspired by the Bible, and that most, if not all tyrants, are religious.

If Jeff alone believed this, it would not be very important. But it is not just him; the mass media generally seem to be pushing the same line. Just one example: the other day, in one of our student reading rooms, I picked up a copy of BBC Focus magazine. It had an article titled “the ten worst inventions of all time.” Number ten turned out to be “religion,” purportedly for spreading conflict.

The claim seems bizarre: all the great universalist faiths preach peace.
But how might we test the thesis objectively?

With regard to tyrants and warmongers, I happen to have a book in my library, a bit of recreational reading, titled The World’s Most Notorious Men. Not a scholarly work; but a handy objective list of the people popularly considered the worst tyrants of history.

Let’s look at their list, and try to determine the religious affiliations involved, to test Jeff’s thesis. Ninety percent, according to him, should be devoutly religious.

Idi Amin - nominally a Muslim convert, but apparently only for the sake of massive aid from Libya. His mother was a shaman, and he seems to have inherited her views.

Pol Pot – atheist.

Jean Bokassa – also converted formally to Islam, also apparently for the sake of massive aid from Libya. But he practiced cannibalism, apparently as a shamanist rite.

Papa Doc Duvalier – shamanist.

Josef Stalin – atheist.

Attila the Hun – shamanist.

Genghis Khan – shamanist.

Tamerlane – Muslim.

Ivan the Terrible – actively anti-religious, apparently Satanist. “Ivan founded a pseudo-monastic order: he was the 'abbot' and his Oprichniki were the 'monks.’ They regularly performed sacrilegious masses that were followed by extended orgies of sex, rape and torture.”

The Ottoman Sultans – Muslim.


This list is obviously incomplete. No Hitler? Let’s augment it with “The World’s Most Notorious Despots,” courtesy of FactMonster:

Maximilian Robespierre – he imposed a state religion of “Reason.” Atheist, probably.

Adolf Hitler – neopagan.

Mao Zedong – atheist.

Nicolae Ceausescu – atheist.

That’s it. I would have included Slobodan Milosevic and the two Kims, Il-Sung and Jong-Il, all atheists. But let’s stick with what we’ve been handed, to ensure our conclusion is unbiased.

So here’s the tally:

Atheists: 5 (counting Robespierre)

Shamanists/pagans: 4 (6 if you count Amin and Bokassa—as we probably should).

Muslim: 2 (4 if you count Amin and Bokassa).

Satanist: 1

Christian: 0

A case might be made from this that, as the universalist faiths go, Islam is a violent religion. But still not as violent as atheists and shamanists. The clearer result is that, contrary to Jeff's assertion, it is atheism and shamanism that promote and abet tyranny.

Leave aside Islam as a special case, and the great universalist faiths seem to quite effectively prevent despotism and violence: they have produced no tyrants at all. No Buddhists; no Jews; no Hindus; no Sikhs; no Christians.

Most striking is the lack of Christian despots, since Christianity is the largest world religion, and the Christian world has been the most militarily powerful for several hundred years—the sort of place where a despot could really do something world-class.

Now let’s look at it from the opposite side of the spectrum: for, to determine who is and is not violent, it is also important to see who stands up against violence. For that, a reasonably objective test is the Nobel Peace Prize. Discounting awards to politicians for merely stopping a war they began, and awards to institutions, who tends to predominate, atheists or the religious?
Here’s the list of those who’ve won, and whose religious affiliations or lack thereof are readily accessible on the Internet, back to 1970:

Jimmy Carter – devout Baptist.

Kim Dae-Jong
– devout Catholic.

John Hume – devout Catholic, ex-seminarian.

Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo – Catholic bishop.

José Ramos-Horta – devout Catholic.

Rigoberta Menchu – Catholic.

Aung San Suu Kyi – observant Buddhist.

Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev – atheist.

The Dalai Lama – Buddhist spiritual leader.

Elie Wiesel – devout Jew.

Desmond Tutu – Anglican bishop.

Lech Walesa – devout Catholic.

Adolfo Pérez Esquivel – devout Catholic.

Mother Theresa – Catholic nun.

Mairead Corrigan – devout Catholic.

Andrei Dmitrievich Sakharov – agnostic.

Here we have almost the mirror image of the stats for tyrants and warmongers—neatly confirming our findings there.

Christians: 11 (a striking 9 Catholics)
Buddhists: 2
Atheists: 1 (2 allowing Sakharov)
Jews: 1
Muslims: 0
Shamanists: 0

So there you go; 70% Christian. You want world peace, you want more Christians and fewer atheists.

What about terrorism?

There, our work is done for us. The MIPT Terrorism Database keeps stats by “group classification” going back to 1970. According to them, of terrorist incidents worldwide since that year:

4867 were by Nationalist or Separatist groups.

3749 were by Communist or Socialist groups—broadly atheists. An additional 433 were by “leftist” groups. Total 4182.

2641 were by Religious groups.

Anarchists, anti-globalisation activists, environmentalists, racists, and rightists account for a further handful each.

So religious motivations account for only a fraction of terrorist attacks; atheists again account for a much larger proportion.

Further, when one examines the names of the groups listed by MIPT as “religious terrorists,” you find that they are almost exclusively Muslim (or rather, Islamist). Discount the Islamists, and all other religions seem virtually devoid of such activities.

Now let’s look at the examples Jeff offers in support of his thesis that religion causes ninety percent of the world’s violence:

He cites, as religious tyrants, George Bush and Osama Bin Laden. He cites, as religious wars, the current war in Iraq, the Israel-Arab conflict, Catholics vs. Protestants in Ireland, the Crusades, the Inquisition [sic—not a war], “Christians vs. Jews,” “Christians vs. pagans,” “ongoing war in Africa,” Serbian Muslim massacres, the Holocaust, and “India.” He does not cite any Christian “terrorist” groups.

Let’s look at each of his examples in turn:

George Bush
Not, by dictionary definition, a tyrant. To see him as a warmonger, it would be necessary to see the Iraq war as a case of unambiguous aggression. This claim is, shall we say, controversial. Certainly it is absurd to put him in the same category with Hitler or Idi Amin. He is a devout Christian.

Osama Bin Laden
Also not, by dictionary definition, a tyrant—he is not even in power. Clearly, he is an advocate of violence. But is he actually religious? His training is in engineering; he appeals to Muslim values, but his Islam seems heretical.

The Current War in Iraq
Not religious. Saddam’s regime was strictly secular and actively anti-clerical. Of the US State Department’s original list of thirty coalition partners, six were majority Muslim nations; two were majority Buddhist. On the Christian side, the Vatican opposed the invasion.

The Arab-Israeli conflict
The press loves to portray this as religious, but the characterization does not hold up to scrutiny. It is an ethnic conflict. On the Arab side, thirty percent of Palestinian Arabs are Christian. The PLO is officially secular. Al Fatah, until recently the largest Arab political unit, is officially secular and Marxist. So is the PFLP. Hamas, a religious or pseudo-religious party, has come to the fore only recently—since last year. It was created only in 1987.

On the Israeli side, Israel was founded, not by religious Jews, but by secular Marxists, as a Marxist state—hence the kibbutzim. The most devout Jewish sects still do not recognize its existence as legitimate.

Marxists fighting Marxists; atheists fighting atheists.

Catholics vs. Protestants in Ireland
The situation here is very similar to that in Israel: the press wants to make it a religious conflict, but it is not. It is a conflict between colonizers and the original inhabitants of the land. The IRA is not a Catholic organization; it is officially secular and Marxist. It is condemned by the Catholic Church. Most of its leaders, and most of the leaders of the Irish Independence movement, have been Protestant. On the other side, we have the “Reverend” Ian Paisley—but his religious credentials are similar to those of Bin Laden. He is self-ordained, and is not recognized as a minister by any established Protestant denomination.

The Crusades
Here we have a conflict genuinely motivated by religious ideals. But it was a just war; the Crusaders were summoned in the name of collective security to defend the Byzantine Empire as it was being overrun by the Seljuk Turks. It is immoral not to fight a just war—just as it would have been immoral of Britain and France not to come to Poland’s aid in WWII. And the overall effect of a just war is to reduce the future likelihood of war.

All this could be said, indeed, of the current Iraq conflict.

The Inquisition
Not a war, as noted, but violence was involved. How much? According to the curator of the Museum of the Spanish Inquisition in Lima, Peru, about one thousand fatalities, worldwide, over three centuries. To get some idea of how significant this is, note this is about the number of people currently executed by the (atheist) government of China every month.

It’s wrong to kill anyone for their beliefs; but in the broad historic context, this is almost trivial.

Christians vs. Jews
There have been many pogroms against the Jews in Christian countries over the past two thousand years. But is the impetus religious, as opposed to ethnic? The evidence suggests not. For, before the Jews were persecuted by Christians, they were at least as actively persecuted by, in turn, the Egyptians, the Babylonians, the pagan Greeks, and the pagan Romans. The worst anti-Jewish persecution in history came at the hands of the Nazi regime in Germany, for whom the issue was expressly race, not religion. Conversely, other minority groups have been similarly persecuted without any plausible religious motive: the gypsies in Europe, the Hakka Chinese in Southeast Asia.

Christians vs. Pagans
There seems to have been quite active persecution of Christians by pagans in the first three centuries of the Christian era. Some time after Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, paganism was officially outlawed, but there does not seem to have been widespread persecution.

Jeff may have been thinking of the witch trials in Europe. But this, again, does not seem to have had anything to do with the witches being “pagan”—if they were. After all, witches are commonly put to death in African shamanic society even today. Witchcraft is no more popular among pagans than among Christians.

“Ongoing War in Africa”
I’m not sure what Jeff is referring to here. Darfur is often in the news, and the media have portrayed that as a Muslims vs. Christians struggle. But this is false: it is a struggle between camel herders and settled farmers; most on both sides are Muslim.

Then there is the Lord’s Resistance Army in Uganda. It has some features that look Christian; but it is really shamanist. The leader, Jospeh Kony, claims to be a spirit medium, which is to say, a shaman; so did the founder, Alice Auma.

Serbian Muslim Massacres
Again, ethnic, not religious, conflict. After all, the Serbs were at least as eager to massacre Croats, who are fellow Christians.

The Holocaust
Perpetrated by a neopagan, anti-Christian government, for expressly racist reasons. No religion involved.

India

There is some interreligious friction in India. But how bad can it be, when the president of this predominantly Hindu country is Muslim, the prime minister Sikh, and the leader of the largest party Christian?

7 comments:

Jeff Harmsen said...

Rarely have I read such blatant bias and sophistry in my life!

Obviously, your book on the most Notorious men was written by a Christian, because every Pope during the Inquisitions and Crusades would otherwise be on the list. The crusades were not a just war, not by a long shot. I leave it up to the readers to research the issue: warning: read the history from actual historians, I.e not Christian authors who eschew the truth.

George Bush is definitely a tyrant because he lied to his people to circumvent the constitution. This is obvious and well known to most everyone except maybe Steve.

The war in Iraq is not religious? Give me a break! Besides Muslims taking advantage of the chaos to kill one another based on Islamic sectarianism, the war is often referred to as a modern day crusade.

Of course oil is another varible. However, Bush's personal theologian is John Hagee, the mad pasture who wrote "Count Down to Jerusalem." Hagee believes war in the Middle East, including neclear arms, is a necessary condition for the second coming of Christ.

Have you ever stopped to wonder why supposed "peaceful" movements develop into atrocious crimes against humanity? I mean, Jesus is often labled the "King of Peace" when millions have been tortured and slaughtered in his name.

When caught in a mismatch of strength, it's to the weaker side's advantage to preach peace. If your enemy is armed with machine guns and all you have is swords, well, if you have a brain in your head, you better preach peach to your followers, or they will all get slaughtered.

Over time, the weaker side gains strength as a backlash to oppression. Suddenly, peace is passe, it's time to stand up for yourself! This is what happened with Christianity. Once Christians gained power, they became every bit as ruthless as their previous oppressors.

Now, how do we break away from this vicious cycle? Through an ideology that maintains it's focus on peace and the well being of humanity, instead of focusing on a god or a state as the ultimate goal. This can only be done if we give up the notion of the "Almighty," which inevitably leads to a superiority complex of war and terrorism and spares believers from a conscience.

Anonymous said...

Should be required reading for all media types -- especially those working for the CBC.

Jeff Harmsen said...

A history of the Crusades and Inquisitions is more pertinet to today's society because the majority of the population believes (blindly) in Christianity. Thus, this is what should be taught to children as a way to extinguish their delusions caused by their exposure to institutions of brainwashing that blatantly practice obscurantism and teach fiction as fact.

Unknown said...

Belief is not blind and how prejudice and intolerant of you to say so. Just because you cannot see or hear or experience a divine state of being please don't shun believers and those who truly cultivate themselves to be better people thru the grace of their God's wisdom .

People cannot remain diligently good all of the time for ever without divine teachings.Not possible, show me one atheist on the planet who has consistently behaved well in all areas of his life in other words "enlightened"?
Criteria would be to never harm anyone physically or mentally or verbally not one bad thought to hurt anyone else.

Only a righteous God with compassion and divine teachings can help us assimilate to the very highest nature of the universe where all matter comes into being.

Truth compassion and Forbearance cannot be achieved by humans on their own through out their lives. One incident or even 2 doesn't cut it, it must be always.

I 'd like to post you all a link and an excerpt from Attorney Gao in China who is a devout Christian and is fearless to speak his heart to Hu Jintao whom he went to school with.

IN 2005 He wrote 3 letters to President Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao asking them what had happened to their beloved China? He also represented the poor farmers who have had their land grabbed, aids victims, anti abortionist campaigners, and practitioners of the Falun Gong in China.

He attracted alot of international attention with reporting how corrupt and evil the CCP is before he had his law office illegally shut down and placed under house arrest for 8 months. IN that time he had several attempts on his life and finally was illegally arrested , trialled without legal representation of his choice, and sentenced last week on trumped up charges of subversion to the state.

He was given alight sentence because the international spotlight was on the CCP but they have said if he speaks out or continues to be subversive he will be arrested again.

They will not silence Attorney Gao as he is also very popular with the 800 million rural poor people of the China and he is too strong a believer.

Below is a link to his letter he wrote to President Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao which you may find interesting particularly because he is devout Christian and did not let that stand in the way to recognizing that Falun Gong is good and in the end will save China.

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/5-12-16/35876.html

"Through my experience of continuously communicating with those citizens who are firm in their beliefs, I have truly seen the existence of something most precious to our nation today. Those who can calmly describe with a smile their experiences of dealing with the dreadful process of being persecuted have shaken my soul. I was often moved to tears. In our nation, I have finally seen the spirit that remains faithful and unyielding, holding onto the intangible quality of principles.
The tribulation in the last six years has created a large group of people who have this unmatchable and noble human dignity. Their firmness towards faith, the way they treat the brutal custody with scorn, as well as their optimism that our nation will have a beautiful future earns one's deep respect. Another trend we found in our investigation is that every Falun Gong follower who has stepped out of custody, no matter how long he or she was in custody, becomes more faithful.

This time, during my stay with the Falun Gong group, I also found another delightful fact. In contrast to the current situation where the humanity, conscience, morality, compassion, and responsibility of our society is suffering an overall deterioration, these cultivators, as a group reborn from the old nation, have impacted all of these areas in a positive way. One can feel the powerful way in which faith can change one's soul. Indeed it has allowed me to see a spark of hope for rescuing our nation from its current depraved state.
Through my acquaintance with these believers, I was deeply moved by their calmness when narrating their unprecedented calamity, their compassion toward those that tortured them, and their optimism towards our nation's future. These people take fame and profit very lightly. They continue to quietly assist fellow practitioners whose lives are in danger due to the ruthless oppression. Their patience in assisting the vulnerable children or the elderly relatives of Falun Gong practitioners, who were either illegally detained or killed, is beyond a typical human being's imagination or understanding. How one's belief has such a strong influence over one's soul and morality is unbelievable."


So you see EJ Not just one or two person behaving supernormally as you would put it but all Falun Gong practitioners he came into contact with.

It has been eight years since the Chinese Communist Party started to persecute Falun Gong. The CCP mobilized the entire country's machinery to target a group of innocent, peaceful people with this unprecedented, brutal persecution. Brainwashing, arrests, imprisonment, forced labor, implication of family and associates, torture and sexual assault, murder, and even organ removal from living people... they have stopped at nothing. In spite of all of this, Falun Dafa practitioners have persisted in their beliefs. They have written the most glorious chapter against tyranny in history by clarifying the truth peacefully, compassionately, and rationally.
This is an extraordinary group. The faith and the moral courage of Falun Gong practitioners are eternal. These eight years of opposing the persecution is a manifestation of the power of righteous belief. All the New Year's greetings to Teacher are declarations of this righteous belief. They are announcements of the failure of the persecution and help to display the magnificence of Falun Dafa.
When this page of history is turned, people will understand the greatness of this group of practitioners. What they should truly remember, however, is Falun Dafa, which gave them righteous belief, and Mr. Li Hongzhi, who founded Falun Dafa and led the practitioners through this darkest part of human history

EJ Don't answer this blog quickly or tritely please have the good manners and intelligence to think about this with an open mind and heart. One day you will remember these conversations and be remiss.

Jeff Harmsen said...

Ms. J, most religious people themselves say, "It's a matter of faith," when asked about their beliefs. They are referring to blind faith because they can not show or prove their god. The reason none of the faithful can show or prove their god is because the concept is based on myth and fantasy.

Nobody, atheist or otherwise, is good all the time, because nobody is perfect. It's part of the human condition. In fact, when religious people think they are perfect, they suffer a superiority complex that leads to a lack of conscience (Bin Laden and George Bush are prime examples, both men believe they are doing god's work).

Simply put, the best we can do is do our best. We don't need god delusions to behave our best. In fact, as history has shown time and time again, delusions and superstious behaviors leads to atrocity.

As for the oppression in China, I have already expressed my empathy. As a humanist, I'm against all tyranny. However, rational thought will help you overcome a dictatorship more efficiently than religion because the delusions of religion distort reality and this can hamper your goals.

Plus, as I have already pointed out, history shows that if the Falun Gong overcomes its enemy, they will likely become oppressive themselves. This is what happened when the Chrisians overcame the Romans: the Christians became every bit as ruthless as their previous oppressors.

Don't forget Ms. J, every member of every cult experiences the euphoria of magical fantasy.

Steve Roney said...

EJ:
Nobody, atheist or otherwise, is good all the time, because nobody is perfect. It's part of the human condition.

SR:
While morality is objective and binding on everyone, the religious have resources helping them to be moral that the atheist lacks.

EJ:
As for the oppression in China, I have already expressed my empathy. As a humanist, I'm against all tyranny. However, rational thought will help you overcome a dictatorship more efficiently than religion because the delusions of religion distort reality and this can hamper your goals.

SR:
Historically, tyrants have probably most often been overthrown by external pressures, as they overreach themselves. Failing that, though, religion has in fact been remarkably effective in overcoming oppression. It was the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. and his Southern Christian Leadership conference that primarily overthrew Jim Crow. It was Bishop Desmond Tutu and his Anglican Church that took the lead in overthrowing apartheid. It was Cardinal Sin and the Catholic Church that primarily overthrew Marcos in the Philippines. It was the devout William Wilberforce, the Quakers, and the Methodists who were in the forefront of abolishing slavery in Britain and the US. It was Pope John Paul II and the Catholic Church that overthrew Communism in Poland and, some argue, ultimately throughout Eastern Europe. It was the devout Mahatma Gandhi who drove the English out of India, and, some argue, ended the entire European colonial enterprise.

Not a bad record. When can you point to “reason” doing as well? Perhaps the French Revolution; perhaps the Russian. But those did not end particularly well. Robespierre, Napoleon, Lenin and Stalin turned out to be worse tyrants than Louis XVI or Nicholas II ever were.

Jeff Harmsen said...

By resources, do you mean empty threats of hell? Do you mean a priest can molest a child, be forgiven by Jesus and go to heaven? Or, are you referring to the millons of examples of torture and massacre predicated by religious righteousness?

Of course, there are plenty of great ideas and lessons in the Bible. However, much of it is obsolete and when taken literally as a whole, humanity has suffered enough atrocity at the hands of the "righteous."

Yes, you make a good point about religious groups overcoming tyranny. It's as though zealotry is necessary for an uprising, peaceful or otherwise. But as you said, it has rarely been attempted based on reason. And as I pointed out to Ms. J, once the Christians gained power circa 325 AD, they became every bit as barbaric as the Romans.

When it comes to modernity, the biggest threat to humanity is thoroughly entrenched in a Christian/Muslim Jihad. John Lennon suggested we give peace a chance. I argue it is time to do the same with reason.

For the last time, tyrants like Hitler and Stalin were not humanists.